Tengku Razaleigh, PM at last?
Tengku Razaleigh, or fondly known as Ku Li by Malaysians, still yearns to taste the power of being prime minister. Born in 1937, the former finance minister is now 71. But he has declared that he is still keen to fight for bangsa, agama dan negara (race, religion and country).
In one word, Ku Li is kolot-lah. Did you read his letter to prime minister Abdullah Badawi? He bemoaned that Penang has fallen to the “Chinese-based DAP”, Perak to “DAP despite that the mentri besar is from PAS” and Selangor which will be “dominated by non-Malay DAP and non-Malays from PKR despite that the mentri besar is a Malay”.
WOW! It doesn’t get any more racist than this I hope. OH NO! TANAH MELAYU telah jatuh dalam tangan kaum pendatang (Tanah Melayu has fallen into the hands of the immigrants)!
I’m surprised he didn’t add the favourite, “The Malays will always have political power.”
But in his two-page letter calling for an emergency meeting to discuss the party’s devastating performance, he warned that “Umno will not be able to represent the voice of Malays again”.
Well, in this case, I would prefer Abdullah as at least he said in the UMNO General Assembly in 2006 that UMNO was “for all”, suggesting that as the biggest party in Barisan Nasional, it had a duty to look after the interests of other “races”. This has yet to translate into policy except for the scrapping of bumiputera privileges in the Iskandar Development Region in Johor and opening up small loans to non-bumiputera small and medium enterprises (SMEs).
REFRESHER ON TENGKU RAZALEIGH and the RM2.5BIL BUMIPUTRA MALAYSIA FINANCE SCANDAL
Not directly related to him but one of Ku Li’s cronies, Lorrain Osman, who was a former BMF chairman. Notoriously known as the Carrian scandal in the early 1980s, the case involved murders, extraditions and glamorous personalities from London to Hong Kong. In the end, the alleged mastermind George Tan of the Carrian group was not convicted. Meanwhile, Lorrain is living in the very posh St. John’s Wood in London and was investigated in 2001 for some shady deals involving the Irish Taoiseach (Prime Minister) Bertie Ahern.
SO TAINTED-LAH. Can we have some FRESH FACES please? At least Anwar is not associated with financial controversies like Ku Li, Mahathir and Daim are.
rrrrrracist la this Ku Li….
In his letter he wrote
“Parti Perkauman Cina DAP” == Chinese Racist Party DAP.
Parti majoriti kaum Cina would have been better.
My 4 year karat BM can still work better than his?
There’s no excuse of vocabulary mistake there.
so old somemore… this Malaysia, NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN!!!
Yeah man. Don’t want to discriminate against the old as they can also have forward thinking ideas. But Ku Li in his letter showed that he still living in 1960s-lah.
We the rakyat will reject any party that politicize along racial lines….A visionary leader shall fight for ALL Malaysians. UMNO should open up to all Malaysians if it wants to survive in the future.
Time has changed but UMNO is still trapped with its old mindset…how pathetic especially “this UMNO baru” was born in 1988….
Yer-ler. Zaman PURBA-man. Haiyah. **shake head** saviour of the malays, wor….Even Pak Lah more “modern” than Ku Li. All forgot BMF SCANDAL already???? The BMF auditor who went to HK to investigate was MURDERED man! Like Chinese triad movie-lor! HERO!
ku li? please…all these B*stards think they can live as long as Adam. goodness!!! from semi value to rafidah to mahathir… and now?? kuli? eh..he’s not someone with a clean background.. what a thick face MF?
i believe there is no one on earth who can serve a country and its people so faithfully till they refuse to stop and step down from their post. Even if they make way for others in their position, they can still serve if they wanna.
The only reason i can think of is the position they held gives them the power to generate heaps and heaps of wealth. put it this way, it’s almost like sitting on a pot of gold, tikus jatuh dalam guni beras… the rat will not leave…
so all these politicians, don’t give me all those shit words like,” i wanna serve the people, i wanna understand their needs,” all these are words of bulls***. YOU DON’T f**king need to hold a post in the gov or political party to serve the people!!!
and for that racist piece of s*** kuli.. for your information, we are all migrants, you have no right to claim anything just because your ancestors may have came earlier!!!! Talking about bumiputera…i have met a real indigenious people..he is nothing like a bumiputera…he is humble…he does not complaint…and he does not wake up thinking and worrying about his rights..he knows he has it, it has been bestowed upon him the day he was born… and he is willing to share it… unless it is a self-claimed rights…you have to worry about it cause you know you were not bestowed with it the day you were born…and you know you took it at the expense of another…that is why you worry you may lose it….f**k!!
it is just a product created for political purpose. it instil hate
All land belongs to God, He chose to put us all together..that is unless you don’t believe in God.
so stop using this racist shit to claim political mileage..what did your religion teach you??? huh? to hate? to be jealous and envious? to acheive your goals at the expense of other people?? wtf!!
Racism and fascism, the true UMNO culture. This can never vary. None can be UMNO leaders and members without subscribing to this core culture.
Tukar topik menjadi “TENGKU RAZALEIGH, UMNO President at last?”
Just in case, dia hanya berjaya menjadi Presiden UMNO apabila UMNO sudah jadi Pembangkang.
Good one. Ha ha ha ha ha.
This is a “Malaysian Dilemma”
Name one potential leader (from any political party) who comes with just these four qualities (all in one) — high integrity, energetic, intelligent and non-racist at heart — who is ready to lead, and will be accepted & respected by all the rakyat.
I can’t even name one.
Such racist remarks are only to be expected from UMNO baboons. Nothing surprising, nothing new.
I’d be equally cautious of Keadilan however.
Recent events and statements from Keadilan seem to reek of UMNO culture.
Let’s hope we don’t end up with two UMNOs in Malaysia.
http://unwantedcitizen.blogspot.com/2008/03/from-umno-to-pkr-hegemony.html
My reading of this is Ku Li isn’t going to get anywhere.
Najib will stick with Badawi…and as long as he does that, most of the top UMNO leadership will line up accordingly - the chances of forcing Badawi out is slim.
Badawi probably has enough dirt on Najib to destroy him forever…so Najib has no choice but to cooperate. Just say “Altantuya” and “Scorpene” and you’ll know what I mean…
Yeah. Najib’s balls are now in a glass jar in PM’s home. Dunno about Ku Li. Some Dr M supporters + Ku Li drama there. Dr M is angry with Pak Lah. But I’m quite happy with the cabinet despite Mike Tyson.
UMNO has run out of ideas, and leaders. Its suitable place is in the museum, not the mainstream politics of Malaysia …….
for all its worth, it would be interesting to see ku-li to raise a no-confidence vote to pak-lah in the parlimen. anwar certainly wont be there to raise his hand (to ask for this vote of no confidence)…
whatever it may be.. all BR members will certainly be rallying against pak lah.. and ku li will look like a hero (until the setback kicks in) for the anti-paklah group within UMNO.
its like general election all over again… only this time its between the big-boys in the parliment. its would certainly be interesting to speculate what happens next.
i am actually starting to pity pak lah….they better not be too hard on abdullah who after all, inherited 22 years of Mahathirism.
ku li the racist love to write letters,
just ignore him.
With respect to the BMF-George Tan-financial crisis of ‘82, I remember, the noose paper of that time quoting him as saying, “I swear to God, I have nothing to do with it!”
To refresh the alleged plot of the time, see:
http://tinyurl.com/2wkd75
- especially, Article 214 WHAT GETS WASHED IN THE PACIFIC BASIN?
Jedyoong
Since you spoke of BMF Scandal. How about a refresher on it? Ku Li has never been tried or anything. WHat basis is he linked to the scandal?
He is not tried. I think I made it very clear but mentioned that his good buddy Lorrain Osman was convicted and spend time in jail. Just ask any of the oldtimers about Tengku Razaleigh and Lorrain Osman.
“bangsa, agama dan negara”, as a slogan smacks of xenophobic partisanship and will never unite a country by its inherently very narrow minded ethos and bathos. Deniers to this fact simply have to be hypocrites in the process of denying.
Jed > Guess prices shoot up too fast that we tend to worry about the present rather then the past > Thanks for reminding about his past DOWNSIDE … woww those are good refreshers .. Xia Xia … But seriously do we really want a 71+ man to be our PM,no other younger capable Malaysian ? Guess the arrogant Ku Li still refused to accept the results of the GE …. WE ALL WANT TO BE JUST MALAYSIANS …
TANAH MELAYU telah jatuh dalam tangan kaum pendatang (Tanah Melayu has fallen into the hands of the immigrants)! …. < Think only those cronies in UMNO are using those out dated tags … GOSH .. it does smell of a case of ISA .. doesnt it ? Oooops forgot we got 2 sets of Law .. god bless Malaysia …
“At least Anwar is not associated with financial controversies like Ku Li, Mahathir and Daim are.”
you are kidding right? please think back on the financial scandals and corruption issues anwar was associated with from the moment he became Finance Minister in 1991 all the way to his sacking in 1998. Especially when he was the acting PM in 1997.
It is mentally old people like Ku Li [ appropriately Coolie mentality] who are fast confirming that BN is a thing of the past and should never again be given a chance no matter how hard they try in various sheep’s clothing. DS Anwar has the answer to what Malaysians after 50 years have developed to be. We have all prayed hard through various ways for a better Malaysia and GOD is willing to let DS Anwar lead the way. Have faith my friends. Cheers!
Witso!
U wrote:
“Racism and fascism, the true UMNO culture. This can never vary. None can be UMNO leaders and members without subscribing to this core culture.”
UR STATEMENT, AS IT WAS WRITTEN( ie- in absolute terms and without qualifications), contains all the sweeping generalizations, stereotyping and prejudices which are the hallmarks of a racist. A pity.
Ur statement would have contained more credibility, if it wasn’t guilty of encapsulating the same sin that it accuses UMNO and its members of, ie, the sin of racism.
I am a die hard UMNO loyalist. Yet, in the recent general elections I voted DAP, a party that to many is anti Umno. And I voted for Tony Pua, ( as I would any DAP candidate) NOT INSPITE of my sense of fidelity to Umno, BUT RATHER, PRECISELY BECAUSE OF IT.
And there were many other thousands of true blue Umno members who voted like me. This would have been impossible if your statement was true.
So stop typecasting Umno members. As a party of millions, Umno is not homogenous.
Hi Mat Rempit Hubris. Agree that UMNO is not homogeneous but unfortunately the media limelight is hogged by quite a few narrow-minded, and archaic minds…
Racism and fascism, the true UMNO culture. This can never vary. None can be UMNO leaders and members without subscribing to this core culture…..may i know what is the culture of the chinese in the private sector.is it any different.Do you know how difficult it is to get into the private sector controlled and dominated by the chinese and i am not against chinese nor of their success through hardwork.Just ask them to be fair too.It should work both ways.
Mostly Chinese companies don’t accept Malays cos the Chinese can only speak Chinese fluently….It’s a language thing. Which is why I support the abolishment of government-funded Chinese schools for national schools that use English as the medium of instruction, Malay as a compulsory language and the options to learn the other main languages.
Also religion should be taken out of schools.
Some Chinese may also think they are superior, esp those from Chinese-ed.
I see the cat fights in UMNO are getting more intense by the day. I say let them all burn … slowly in that sinking ship called UMNO.
UMNO is all about racism and they will never change. With their dogs, MCA, MIC and Gerakan all sinking now in their own shit, it wont be long before the entire UMNO-BN self destruct.
Let them all go down in a slow, shameful and painful manner.
Ku Li as an acceleration of UMNO destruction - YES
Ku Li as Primi Minister - NEVER
Dear JED,
What an IRONY?
MCA & GERAKAN - so against a Muslim Malay MB in PERAK. UMNO quiet.
UMNO - so against a Chinese DMB in Selangor. MCA & GERAKAN no comments.
BN component parties CONFUSED or sheer Hypocrites?
Why can’t they just admit to their weaknesses and work towards redeeming themselves.
We must never vote BN the next elections even though the BR fails to deliver. BN fellas are not sincere and will never be sincere. Patronage politics must stop. Cut their source of funds.
BTW - time to call it a day KU - you are still not connected. ketinggalan zaman doh KU. (Perhaps you may take a leaf from Shaberry Chik - i admire this guy and he did stick with you thru your ups and downs KU)
Yeah-lah. BN dunno how to deal with the new information age. Not like before where the races only know one language, etc. Now everything is on the internet. So BN better evolve or become extinct. Ku Li, sigh, so sad he had to revert to the old ways. I like him as a person but not his politics.
Ku Li has a chance to save UMNO. He will do better than the current one in managing the country. However, Ku Li is not the man to save Malaysia. Malaysia which we want to leave behind for our children and grandchildren requires a different outlook. This is not about racism!
In fact any article written with reference to race - including yours - will excite racism sentiment. There is such thing as ‘reverse racism’ when a particular group write about racism being practiced by another group.
Racism, if we want to leave it behind us, has to be addressed from the top - with policies which embrace all facet of diversity, not just race.
Malaysia is not yet anywhere near - to being a truly inclusive society. No where near!
Idham
I agree with you that my article has racist undertones. But it in reponse to Ku Li’s dated, racist comments. I think Ku Li could have used more inclusive language. We are no where near a cohesive society but each of us should play our little part.
Dangerman:
3. Then there is the Tengku Razaleigh factor. There is strong undercurrent that Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah will have solid support this time around. The party members will also most likely push for an early Assembly and Election. They will kick Idiot out onto the streets. When this happens, Ku Li will sweep the slate clean. All of you idiots will have to go. Ku Li appears to be the best bet for the UMNO boys at this point in time. He comes with no baggage and no scandals. At 71 years of age Ku Li also does not present any real dynastic threats to the future of UMNO or the nation. Hence Raja Petra Kamarudin is also rooting for Tengku Razaleigh.
And what will Tengku Razaleigh do? He will set things in order and then call a snap election. More than half the BN candidates in the snap elections will be new faces. Ku Li will promise real reforms in UMNO and the BN and the country. The PM may be restricted to two terms, the UMNO president may be restricted to two terms, the ketua bahagian will be restricted to two terms etc. The disgruntled Malays and maybe even the Chinese and Indians will rally around Ku Li. It may be a new beginning for the country again. This is a real possibility.
http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/4758/1/
Ask the old racialist hat to fly kite.It is people like him that destroy this beautiful country of ours playing on sensitive racial line.You are no hero kundi.You are just a backyard garbage.Your time is over.Zakaria deros is beckoning you.
Ho-ho-ho, some ‘kataks’ just forgot about his old S46 days. How sweet. What next? Projecting UMNO as a resurrected S46?
Never mind, both are irrelevant though.
Anwar Ibrahim had cl;early espoused his ideas to reform Malaysia.
Ku Li has only announced his decision to challenge Pak Lah. Why had Ku Li remained silent on the BMF scandal??? Did he had anything to hide??? An honest , hardworking, conscientious and diligent Melayu BMF auditor had been murdered…why??
Now…Anwar is Malaysia’s best candidate to lead and reform Malaysia. He had been through tremendous adversity but he had come out stronger and a man with a new vision for Malaysia.
What is Ku Li’s vision to reform UMNO and Malaysia? Does he intend to rename UMNO as ” United Malaysian National Organization” ?? Or still hog onto an old mindset ..for RACE, RELIGION etc….
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Jed!
Re: Wisto’s March 20th,11:12pm comment
I have issues with Witso’s comment bcos AS IT WS WRITTEN, it was blatantly racist. ( pls note that his 3 sentences, didn’t contain any qualification. In fact every sentence was written in absolute terms, as if it was a priori truth. If it ws at least remotely nuanced, i wouldnt have bothered to reply )
Though u did not expressedly told me to do so,nonetheless, after reading your reply to my previous comment, i did cajole me to ponder on the possibilty that Witso’s racist comment was written due to impressions he/she got from reading msm headlines and articles.I have disqualified that possibility.
Why? Well, off hand I’ll give u 2 reasons:
1. SIMPLY BECAUSE Witso reads blogs- a venue where oceans of ink have been written discrediting the MSM as reliable sources of political information. So it is inconsistent and illogical for me to excuse/excpet Witso’s racist comment on the grounds that it was MSM influenced - it would be tantamount to saying that on the hand we don’t believe/ skeptical of MSM, but on the other, we believe in the MSM so strongly, to the extant that it can cause us to make racist a priori comments.
2. It is apparent that the recent election results( esp in previous BN strongholds) could only have happen, because enuf UMNO members and supporters voted opposition. There is no other possible reason explaining such massive swing in votes in safe UMNO and BN areas. For example Sg Petani n Bukit Selambau.N this Umno defection cuts across BOTH party and racial lines.
So for Witso to say that UMNO members are by definition racist is not only NOT TRUE but actually racist in itself. Infact Witso’s first comment about Umno members, says more about him/herself, than it does about them.
Salam .
Ps- Hey Jed,I’m an IT illiterate.So if i want to send u an email, how exactly shud i write the adress?is it jed.yoong@gmail.com or jedyoong@gmail.com or neither?
Hi. It will be “jed.yoong@gmail.com”. I agree with no.2.
It gets rich when deriding racism makes one a racist. If it’s only possible to establish that umno isn’t a hardcore racist party moulded by that sole thrust for it’s raison d’être. If one disagree with any party’s fundamental philosophy, why belong to it at all? Well, I voted PAS and PKR without misgiving and never the BN.
Racism and fascism, the true UMNO culture. This can never vary. None can be UMNO leaders and members without subscribing to this core culture. - wits0
That`s very true. Bumiputraism is an extension of the Darul Islam ideology. It is truly racist.
Mat Rempits from carthage are invited to discourse on it further.
So for Witso to say that UMNO members are by definition racist is not only NOT TRUE but actually racist in itself.
LIAR
It is apparent that the recent election results( esp in previous BN strongholds) could only have happen, because enuf UMNO members and supporters voted opposition. - Mat Rempit
Yes. But why? Cos it was economics. DSAI promised them that petrol wouldn`t go up, that he could control inflation blah blah.
Even a stupid person would know it was economics. After the GE they are crying about loss of malay control and demonstrating.
Podah you racist mat rempit. Come up with something better.
Yeah-lah. All they can talk about is “Malay unity” etc. Unity for what? Against the “onslaught” of the kaum pendatang.
In an audacious move, a notable Gerakan politician has taken Barisan Nasional coalition leader Umno to task for inciting racial sentiments among Malays to gain political mileage.
“They incite racial sentiments among their community in a petty attempt to further their political career,” Gerakan Youth vice-chief S Paranjothy alleged today (Dec 21).
Such attempts, he said, include taking potshots at other BN component parties which
draw their support from non-Malay communities.
“Umno leaders are very found of picking on component parties and use them as their punching bag or stepping-stone to gain popularity in their community,” Paranjothy said in a hard-hitting four-page statement entitled ‘Discrimination from Womb to Tomb’.
He singled out Umno Youth Chief Hishammuddin Hussien’s keris waving and his deputy
Khairy Jamaluddin’s claim that non-Malays would take advantage of a weak Umno leadership, as prime examples of racial posturing.
He also cited Khairy’s speech at the Umno general assembly last month, during which he blamed newspaper vendors for not wanting to work on Deepavali day. He made a pointed reference to the fact that the sector is predominated by Indian Malaysians.
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/76305
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
It`s amazing how much the other BN parties have been beaten into `slavery` by racist UMNO.
UMNO has destroyed all the other peninsular non malay parties in BN. `Brothers In Arms` it seems.
Much parallells with `Rise And fall Of The Roman Empire`. First, the outposts collapse, then `Rome` itself.
Gerakan is a good example. Sigh. If Gerakan teams up with DAP…for PEnang…The island can break off liao…
“Unity”, for its own sake is not the highest human virtue. That’s why in Susan’s Blog is the by-line that states, “INTEGRITY ABOVE UNITY”, which I truly endorse. A very insightful observation.
Look at many of the Arab nations and see the turmoil in countries that came into being under tyranny with absolute emphasis on just unity for power’s sake. If you have no integrity and good human values, unity only empowers tyranny and antagonizes others(there will always be ‘others’, within or without the fold) and consequently peace cannot ever to be found. This is not the medieval era. In their Karmaic past some people used unity(and the power derived from that) to get what they wanted by force. Today, they become disunited and weak but clamor continuosly for more of the same drug of delusion.
Of cos intergrity over unity-lah. Just unite for unity’s sake? At the same time, we must be open and interact with others.
“Just unite for unity’s sake?”
A vile and the paranoiac rabble rousing fascist leadership unites people for the purpose of bullying others. That’s their kneejerk. This type of “unity” does not bring peace but causes wars like WW2 because it is grounded in lies, greed , hate and delusion.
To Witso!
U wrote: It gets rich when deriding racism makes one a racist
U mean rich with truth?Hahahaha( this last sentence is joking.But the following arent)
Though u did not mention it was me, I’m going to make the assumption that u were refering it to me. And more specifically u meant that i am concluding that u r a racist.
Well, read carefully what i wrote.All of them.And, u will clearly find out that i never called you racist.
And before you forget, i m writing on the assumption that the sentence you wrote( ie,..It gets rich when deriding racism makes one a racist) is refering to me. If it wasnt then all that i wrote above is irrelevant.
Mostly Chinese companies don’t accept Malays cos the Chinese can only speak Chinese fluently….It’s a language thing….I think you got it completely wrong.I am talking about discrimination practiced in listed companies even the five top audit firms in the country practice it to a large extend when it comes to promoting staffs within the organisations.please dont mislead the public and this is the true and sad state of affairs in the private sectors.We go on bashing umno for this and that but forget about that practiced by those in the private sectors.
To hutchrun!Or Hooch for short,
U dont have a cultured mind do u?
First u invite others to have a “discourse”.Then u called them all kind of silly names like ‘racist’ and ‘liar’.Do u realize that resorting to the latter defeats the spirit of the former?
Still, i thank u for ur comments.I had constipation earlier but after reading the quality of your comments and argumentative prowess, my bowel movements have definitely improved.
I will respond to one point u made simply because the rest i have no idea to what part of my comments u were referring to.
U claim that Umno members voted opposition simply because of DSAI economic promises.N you say this with absolute conviction to the extant that u claim ,even a stupid person would see its truth.
Well,I am in a quandry.
So i have to ask ” R U AN UMNO MEMBER YOURSELF, HUTCHRUM?”. Bcos, usually it is only party members who make simplistic claims about other members with such absolute conviction.
Yet, if you were an Umno member you would also realize the total absurdity of your opinion.Why? Well, i’ll make it simple so that even u can understand.
Umno members know DSAI very well, for a very long time and we know that he is a congenital liar.We dont trust him even on simple things like his anti corruption and anti cronism drive bcos in many instances he epitomizes those things.His made his cronies rich at the same time he condemes it….If u know Umno well u would have heard of zahid hamidi,Nasarudin Jalil, Ahmd Sebi, Kamarudn Jafar,Sarit Juso, etc-etc and how they profited by being close to DSAI.And this was done for years. If you know enuf about domestic politics u would know that i am not making this up.
So Umno members dont beleive squat what DSAI has to say on even simple things like corruption or cronism, what more his election promises.
Thus, only an ignaramous would agree with ur claim that the Umno defection was simply because of DSAI economic promises.
So i further repeat, that to claim all Umno members, both in the past and in the presant are by defination racist, as was implied by Wiso’s FIRST COMMENT is NOT ONLY WRONG, BUT BY ITSELF, RACIST.
PS-And Hutchrum, pls stop calling others racist, liar or stupid just bcos they dont agree with u. It shows that either u dont know the meaning of the words or u r one yourself.
Ha ha ha. Sounds like what you said to me a long time ago when you told me to stop calling people racist. Anyway keep it civil gentlemen. I do agree that Anwar isn’t that appealing to core UMNO or most Msians. I believe that many just voted in anger against the arrogance of the current administration. Don’t forget the Mahathir loyalists and the anti-KJ camp….who prob united under the anti-pak lah umbrella…
next election with pak lah gone, we may see bn regaining power esp with all this backdoor trading that anwar is doing..
Hutrum!
Look at the Bukit Selambau election results.
A cursory glance will prove THE SHEER ABSURDITY OF YOUR CLAIM that Umno members defected in droves simply because of DSAI’s economic promises. Additionally it would show the UTTER FOLLY OF WITSO’s first comment that ALL Umno members, throughout history, are by definition racist.
In an area where the majority are Malays, Bukit Selambau was won NOT by BN, PKR, DAP or PAS. Instead it was won by an independent, of Indian ethnicity, V Arumugam.The majority was 2,362, which means more than 11,000 voters defected from the BN since the 2004 elections.
In a BN stronghold, and malay majority area, such a massive swing could only have happen because of an Umno defection. And since it was won by an independent, YOUR ALLEGATION THAT UMNO DEFECTIONS happen because of DSAI( PKR) sweet promises DOES NOT HOLD WATER. The guy who won, V Arumugem was, not from Barisan Rakyat or PKR, but an independent, and hence made NO PKR or DSAI kind of promises.
Futhermore, to rebut Witso’s first comment, if all Umno members were racist(Btw,a racist by definition, is someone who hates others simply bcos of their race) they wouldn’t have voted an Indian, especially one who was not endorsed by Umno. If they were ALL as racist as claimed by Witso( which was later supported by HUTCHRUM), they would not have voted someone belonging to a race they hate, would they?
BUT THEY( Umno members) DID VOTE SOMEONE FROM ANOTHER RACE. So they are NOT ALL racist, as was claim by u and witso. If you were not blind by your prejudices, this would be as clear as daylite.
And the Umno defection in Bukit Selambau was, to a lesser or greater degree, reflective of many Umno member voting patterns throughout the Peninsular.
So I REPEAT, to comment that ALL Umno members are racist by definition( as said by Witso March 20th, 2008 at 11:12 pm comment) , ie,..they hate other races, is NOT ONLY ABSURD N WRONG, it smacks of racism itself.
U dont have a cultured mind do u? - Mat Rempit
Haha:
Hooch is a colloquial nickname for an illegally distilled corn or grain-based alcoholic beverage, also known as moonshine, PGA (pure grain alcohol), or creek water. The creators and imbibers of hooch generally understand the relative inferiority of the product compared to aged whiskeys, but it’s a risk they are willing to take for an inexpensive intoxicant. Hooch production usually begins under cover of darkness, as the distiller creates a mash of corn, sugar, water and active yeast in a large copper pot. The interaction between the yeast and the sugars converts a portion of the mash to ethanol, the basic form of alcohol present in all consumable alcoholic beverages.
I have seen mat rempits imbibing hooch. Usually they mix it with coke to hide what they are drinking. Their `molls` too. After that they go for `multiple sex`. That I suppose is very cultured from those whose only contribution to culture was agriculture - the rest was copied from kaum pendatang. When they are in parliament, mat rempits wave keris and declare their profound admiration for their contribution to the English language which is the word `amok`.
Now, Starsky and Hutch is a cuppa of a different order altogether. Akin to Damon and Pythias - alas the mat rempits wouldn`t be able to fathom that.
`So I REPEAT, to comment that ALL Umno members are racist by definition( as said by Witso March 20th, 2008 at 11:12 pm comment) , ie,..they hate other races, is NOT ONLY ABSURD N WRONG, it smacks of racism itself.`
THEY HATE OTHER RACES.
Not all? But maybe some who really believe the ketuanan melayu ideology..
`I had constipation earlier but after reading the quality of your comments and argumentative prowess, my bowel movements have definitely improved.`
You must be very short. Your brains are rather close to your bottom then. UMNO members voted oppn cos they arwe no longer in UMNO or on the way out of UMNO. Only short-circuited brains wouldn`t be able to see into that. The same would apply to MCA/MICe/Gerakan members. But the epidemic was started by UMNO.
When members leave parties, they just leave. They do not communicate it in writing to the party`s HQ-and they don`t inform Mat Rempits either. Now go get hooched you defender of racism and your racist keris waving leaders. It`ll help loosen your bowels. Only problem is what should be exuded from your bowels, is coming out through your mouth. That is a a case of serious constipation.
`…who really believe the ketuanan melayu ideology..`
UMNO pejuang Bangsa right. So they are racist - all of them.
Hutchrum!
Thanx for the insights on Hooch and the proclivities of real life Mat Rempits. Unfortunately, it has nothing to do with my reply or the topic at hand. By writing whole paragraphs to side step the issue,i guess, intuitively u realize the emptiness of your previous reply.
Anyway, Hootch, repeating the sentence “THEY HATE OTHER RACES” is an assertion not a fact.
U can repeat it a million times and its still just an allegation not a fact.And neither is it an argument.In mathematical terms, your empty point of view, is akin to multiplying nothing a million times—U STILL GET ZERO.
PS- Btw, since u have such an intimate knowledge of Mat Rempits, i take it ur a Rempit yourself? Got any extra hooch?
Jed Yoong!
U wrote:I believe that many just voted in anger against the arrogance of the current administration.
Spot on. I dah tak tahan dah dengan dia orang punya kurang ajar. Dan bodoh pulak tu.And like i wrote in Zorro’s blog, i detest their keris waving antics. Biadap.They shud be put in the ISA for that.
Not all, Jed, but the doctrine itself is still racist and hate predisposing. How could anyone be not subscribing to it(racism) by being member in such an outfit? That would need the regular camel BUT-ter ‘logic’.
Tengku Razaleigh, the last Umno PM ? This title will surely create controversy.
Ok. whilst Ku Li has comparatively superior political and administrative experience to become the PM, nevertheless - if not, why are we discussing him at all ?
Despite what is discussed in this post, there is no evidence that he is involved in corruption. But first things, first. To become PM:
1. he needs to first become president of UMNO
2. he needs about 60 nominations from UMNO divisions just to become a candidate for the UMNO presidency (last time he got only 1 nomination)
3. should he get the prerequisite nominations, he still must actually beat the other presidential candidates in the UMNO election to become the president.
4. should he win the UMNO presidential election and become its president, BN must still remain the ruling coalition government, for him to become the PM.
Now thats my RM5 opinion…so boys and gals, relax, go to the mamak and get something to eat.
The Malaysian Life
Hi Mat Rempit, I’ve emailed Hutch your comment. Hutch is a regular commenter and sometimes gets carried away but is harmless.
“Lorrain Osman is Razaleigh’s very,very GOOD BUDDY” So he is guilty by association, is he ?
BTW, Paris Hilton is my friend - so she says ;), does that mean we share the same bf ? Of course not. Because I got better taste.
Lim Kit Siang has 700+ “friends” on his facebook, some are of questionable character. So can we conclude that Kit Siang is like that as well ?
Ok, boys and gals… have you ordered your teh O ice limau, yet ?
Jed!
I ascribe by your wisdom on this.
But for the sake of fairness, if Hutch goes on one of his(her) mindless diatribe at me again, and imputing racism on me on the flimsiest of reasons,and in public, pls allow me to republish it, for all to see.
I have no qualms people disagreeing, but play fair.
Salam.
Racism ! Ku Li is married to a fine Chinese lady. BMF Lorraine Qsman, Ku Li was never convicted.Out of date? Is Pak Lah capable? What about Anwar? Shares allocations , selling of Goverment projects. Being a stooge of foreign goverment ? A good orator that feeds the adoring crowd to hear what they want to hear. Once a malay extremists and now fights for Malaysia for malaysians. A literature graduate that now profounds as a seasoned economists and financial consultant.Selling one country just to gain power is sick!
jed,
this is not about racial things ma…plenty of examples can be noted to argue ….and pls try not to be childish in your statement..think few steps ahead..will you..
WE ARE TRYING TO ASSOCIATE THE RIGHT LEADERSIP FOR MALAYSIAN BETTERMENT.